James Last: While I'd agree that consistency wise that it doesn't quite measure up to their first six albums or heaven and hell, there's lots of great stuff on there. The band was changing, there's no question that it wasn't the same Sabbath, but at its best, it was just as good.
You have to wonder if it would have got the same critical pasting if it had been made by a newer band. Andrew Williams: I seem to have spent most of my adult life trying to convince fellow rock fans of the merits of Zep's Presence and Sabbath's Never Say Die , two albums I absolutely adore and which most people hate even Rock critics.
At the arse end of Ozzy's tenure with the band it gets written off. Big mistake, its songs are bloody brilliant and it's full of great riffs. I urge all to give it another go. Keith Jenkin: Title track is a killer and although it's not a total clunker it was obvious from day one to me that there was nothing else on here to trouble the future "Best-Of" compilers.
Jeff Tweeter: One of my favourite Sabbath albums - and ferociously misrepresented by the band and the music media to fit the bullshit narrative that this album was the ashes the phoenix rose from with Heaven And Hell and Blizzard Of Ozz. Never Say Die has some killer creative juice running through its grooves. Junior's Eyes and Air Dance are prime examples. And in Johnny Blade , when Ozzy delivers the line " And his web is the city at night " - it is so perfectly menacing!
Over To You and Shockwave are killer, overlooked gems as well. I always thought Never Say Die made up for everything that was wrong with the previous album Technical Ecstasy. To this listener, and Sabbath devotee, it's probably my 4th favourite of the 70's Ozzy era. Having said that, I do tend to pass on Swinging The Chain , no disrespect to Bill Ward's vocals intended - it just seems like filler; and Hard Road is just a bit too But overall, this is definitely a mostly triumphant underdog album, and listening to it is always a bit of an event for me!
Update: Soul's doing fine. For me, it's definitely one of the most intriguing Ozzy-era albums, featuring stuff they rarely did - which I guess for many fans and Ozzy himself was the problem. The title track and A Hard Road are both upbeat singalong anthems that were staples of other band's repertoires, but not Sabbath's.
Johnny Blade and Shock Wave are more typical Sabbath rockers, but still nothing you would attribute to a bunch of slouches stoned on couches. Ironically, I can't get enough of two songs that Ozzy hated: the phantasmic fantastic instrumental Breakout with the skronking sax solo and the gnarly, snarly Breaking The Chains , sung by Bill Ward that is punctuated with a scream that puts the Ozzman to shame.
Air Dance is probably the most beautiful song they have written since the equally melancholy Planet Caravan way back on Paranoid. Of course, it probably helps that I didn't see them live back then when they were getting soundly and roundly trounced by their whippersnapper opening band, Van Halen. But strictly as an album, I put it at 4 or 5 in the Ozzy-era pantheon.
I like Technical Ecstasy a lot too, so they're constantly jockeying for position. Mark Veitch: Some albums require pages of analysis and some can be summed up in one word. The appropriate word for Never Say Die! Billy Master: Always been a favourite of mine despite all the derision that it has received. Although it is well documented that all was not well in the camp, as was subsequently proved. I thought that this was a brave move.
So many bands get trapped by their own sound and are not allowed to deviate from it. Nowhere near as heavy as earlier albums and not Iommis best guitar sound.
We now know that they had at least one more top draw album in them Heaven And Hell , but what Iommi did with the brand name thereafter was often dreadful. Saw them on this tour too and they were excellent.
Judge this on its own merits of which there are many. That experimentation, in my estimation, reached its peak with Sabotage. The title track is a straight-ahead rocker and coincidentally or not, my least favourite song on the album while Johnny Blade, Air Dance , and Breakout indulge in much more embellishment. The opening riff of Shock Wave is straight fire; some less thin production on that guitar would have benefitted the song greatly. This and Junior's Eyes are two of my favourites on this album, along with the unfairly much-maligned Swinging The Chain.
Bill Ward will never surpass Ozzy as a vocalist, but this song is not as bad as the naysayers would have us believe. I actually prefer it to It's Alright. In summation, while Never Say Die! Bill Griffin: The first side is as good as anything in their catalog, especially the last three tracks. The second side is a haphazard affair but not surprising considering the internal troubles they were going through, the fact that much of the material was written for Dave Walker to sing and Ozzy refused to redo them which resulted in instrumentals and Bill singing.
It still has a few great tracks and none of it is unlistenable to my ears as opposed to Born Again, which, no matter how many times I try, remains completely unlistenable. I am equally as likely to play this album for a fix as I am any of the other Ozzy-era albums.
Elad Winberg: I really like this album and Technical Ecstasy! The history of rock, one album at a time. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer. Sturges was living in Paris at the time and living what could be described as genteel poverty.
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Or if you're playing to a cassette tape or a record, the motor speed is off on your player. Last edited by devstorm ; , PM. The best blueberry muffins I ever had landed 6 people in prison, three for life. Thanks For The Insight Thanks for the insight, guys. Yeah, I always thought it was in standard tuning. I keep the intonation on my guitars pretty accurate. Sometimes, I've played with songs on the radio, which have been tuned a half-step down, but I was playing in standard, so I adjusted positions on the fretboard.
Even when I did this, I wasn't quite perfectly matching the key of the song. But I guess I shouldn't have let the video fool me. I was just thinking that if the "Hard Road" video was filmed at the '78 Hammersmith soundcheck, maybe Tony was using the guitar that was already tuned down for the concert? I mean, he couldn't have been in standard tuning the whole time during the live show.
I haven't watched it in a while, so I'm guessing he probably didn't play the same SG for the whole show, though. What's up with the different solo in the 'Hard Road' video, though? The exploration of new sounds is part of the reason why Never Say Die! For a band that not only was well known for playing heavy metal, but creating it, it must have surely been a shock to some listeners. If Ozzy and Co. Until it ended. The opening band for the shows was a young group called Van Halen, who had all the energy that Black Sabbath now lacked.
After the tour wrapped, followed by some unproductive studio sessions, the band decided to fire Ozzy.The unsteady state of the entire band, however, makes "Never Say Die!" a textbook definition of what an album should sound like when it signals the end of an era. The opening title track is exciting, and by far the album's best song, and 'Shock Wave,' 'Johnny Blade,' and 'Junior's Eyes' have enough of the doom and gloom that made Black Sabbath /5().